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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:50 pm

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um... "worst revocery in the game? what about DK? or bowser? just to name a few...
Moar liek Wolf
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:51 pm

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um... "worst revocery in the game? what about DK? or bowser? just to name a few...
Moar liek Wolf
]and jiggly who after floating has nothing, samus who has no horizontal, and diddy who explodes of you hit him!
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:52 pm

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IMHO, Fox hasn't been nerfed THAT badly... Wolf deserves D or E tier, IMHO. Sheik should move up a spot or two; infinite on MK FTW. Too easily raped by chaingrabs though ._.

And Link should AT LEAST be D tier; he still has a lot of tricks up his sleeves. He had the same problems in Melee but still raped in Aniki's hands.

Wolf... he's a mixed bag, I really don't know what to say about that one. xD

Sheik has potential, but she has bad priority that sort of ruins her potential. =/ I like Sheik too, it suuuucks. Though those combo thingies are nice. They're just situational, unfortunately.

Link had better recovery in Melee and could L cancel his landing lag.
When I used Wolf, there really was only one right way to use him. You have to master even the simplest maneuvers to last a minute with him, and his ledgegrab range is the worst in the game.

I no rite? ;-;

Granted.
One must admit, though, Wolf's Fsmash and Dsmash are still, to this day, good moves. His Bair is rape... Uair is good... when it comes right down to it, Wolf only uses, like, half of his moveset. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:53 pm

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_Shiranui117 wrote:
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IMHO, Fox hasn't been nerfed THAT badly... Wolf deserves D or E tier, IMHO. Sheik should move up a spot or two; infinite on MK FTW. Too easily raped by chaingrabs though ._.

And Link should AT LEAST be D tier; he still has a lot of tricks up his sleeves. He had the same problems in Melee but still raped in Aniki's hands.

Wolf... he's a mixed bag, I really don't know what to say about that one. xD

Sheik has potential, but she has bad priority that sort of ruins her potential. =/ I like Sheik too, it suuuucks. Though those combo thingies are nice. They're just situational, unfortunately.

Link had better recovery in Melee and could L cancel his landing lag.
When I used Wolf, there really was only one right way to use him. You have to master even the simplest maneuvers to last a minute with him, and his ledgegrab range is the worst in the game.

I no rite? ;-;

Granted.
One must admit, though, Wolf's Fsmash and Dsmash are still, to this day, good moves. His Bair is rape... Uair is good... when it comes right down to it, Wolf only uses, like, half of his moveset. xD
Yeah... Fonz and Jumpman are the ONLY good non-spam Wolfs I've seen.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:53 pm

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td260 wrote:
um... "worst revocery in the game? what about DK? or bowser? just to name a few...
Moar liek Wolf
]and jiggly who after floating has nothing, samus who has no horizontal, and diddy who explodes of you hit him!
And floating is ridiculously good.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:54 pm

td260 wrote:
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td260 wrote:
um... "worst revocery in the game? what about DK? or bowser? just to name a few...
Moar liek Wolf
]and jiggly who after floating has nothing, samus who has no horizontal, and diddy who explodes of you hit him!

Wolf's recovery is decent, as long as you don't screw up with it. xD
Jiggly can't possibly have the worst recovery... Jiggly can go under most stages to the other side. xD
Samus has her grapple beam thing for horizontal recovery, and her UpB has pretty good vertical distance.
Diddy's recovery is crazy good. Just gotta be AZ smart about using it.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:30 pm

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td260 wrote:
um... "worst revocery in the game? what about DK? or bowser? just to name a few...

Donkey Kong has great horizontal recovery. His vertical may suck, but don't get meteor smashed and don't be stupid, and it's really not a problem.

Bowser's sucks, LOL. But it isn't as bad as Link's. Link... throw him off the stage, hit him with a projectile, edgehog.... that's one stock. =/ I like Link too, I almost mained him in SSB64. T_T
Also, take into account that Bowser is the heaviest character in the game, so recovery isn't as important for him.

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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:31 pm

Minby_Aran wrote:
VolkeOfSilence wrote:
td260 wrote:
um... "worst revocery in the game? what about DK? or bowser? just to name a few...

Donkey Kong has great horizontal recovery. His vertical may suck, but don't get meteor smashed and don't be stupid, and it's really not a problem.

Bowser's sucks, LOL. But it isn't as bad as Link's. Link... throw him off the stage, hit him with a projectile, edgehog.... that's one stock. =/ I like Link too, I almost mained him in SSB64. T_T
Also, take into account that Bowser is the heaviest character in the game, so recovery isn't as important for him.
True that.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:41 pm

Bump, so that Stealth can see Wolf's new position.

EDIT: Also, haha Stealth, Luigi is now higher than Wolf, get pooped on by Zhao.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:44 pm

This doesn't surprise me one bit. He wasn't going to stay in the Bottom-High Tier for long.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:48 pm

On the bright side, at least you don't main Ike.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:52 pm

What's wrong with Ike? He rapes when the one playing actually has skill.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:58 pm

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What's wrong with Ike? He rapes when the one playing actually has skill.

So does every other character. Ike is just crazy easy to beat, and has some reeeeally bad matchups. Like Falco, Wolf, Marth, Olimar, etc. He also is completely unable to beat MK. MK's Dair, when used over and over, is a frame trap that Ike cannot escape. It WILL result in Ike dying. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:02 am

Wolf ain't much different when it comes to matchups. He's got D3, Falco, MK(as if this isn't obvious). It's usually a good ieda to play defensively until you think you have you opponent figured out. Who knows, maybe there is something you can do about Mk's predic--oh whoops! There I go again with my ideals.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:03 am

Wario can chaingrab Wolf with his dthrow to at least 100%.

No joke.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:05 am

I hate chain grabs. Tech chasing is one thing, but argh! But then again, any Wolf player knows that any chaingrab can be stopped with the help of the reflector. For the very moment that you press down + B to the moment the reflector comes out, you are completely invincible.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:14 am

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I hate chain grabs. Tech chasing is one thing, but argh! But then again, any Wolf player knows that any chaingrab can be stopped with the help of the reflector. For the very moment that you press down + B to the moment the reflector comes out, you are completely invincible.

I use Falco, so Iove chaingrabs. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:16 am

I would understand that.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:20 am

PEWPEW *regrab*
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:24 am

AW SHIT!

*SD's*
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PostSubject: Re: Heavily debatable: discussion of the New Tier List (SBR).   Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:27 am

MWAHAHA! PEWPEW!
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